#defanging tim unless it’s time for him to be the smartest and completely ignoring the issues he has and has cause within the family | Explore Tumblr posts and blogs

starlooove · 1 year ago

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Ok that’s sweet and all but it still sucks that they did the same thing every fandom does by ignoring black characters actual personality traits and putting them into the straight man stereotype.

Like I don’t give much of a fuck about the rest of that shit but DC comics has been so racist for so long and it fucking bites that when we’re finally getting Duke recognized more, after YEARS of ignoring that he’s part of the family, it’s just basically an audience stand in who gets sad sometimes.

WFA can have it’s funny or cute moments and all and enjoying it is whatever but the fact that y’all are doing at the expense of a black character AGAIN is so irritating and chalking ppls issues with characterization down to “it’s not canon” is just another example of how black fans don’t just go unheard but are oftentimes deliberately ignored in convos like this.

Am I the only person who actually enjoys the batfamily webtoon? I see many people who are saying that the webtoon is bad representation and too fanon. I just think the webtoon it's just the family acting domestic and talking to each one like if no one is trying to murder them.

#like we can talk about fanon vs canon and where WFA falls till we all turn blue #but im not gonna let y’all ignore that the SPECIFIC mischaracterization and flanderization in WFA #that comes from putting white male characters on a pedestal #it’s not just that they’re ignoring canon d dynamics and events #it’s that they have to make Duke boring so everyone else can be badass in comparison #they have to make cass perfect so they can focus on everyone else #they have to ignore Steph’s insecurities stemming from very specific ppl in order for her to get along with them and further their stories #the issues ppl have with WFA don’t exist in a void it comes from the prominent issues DC has ALWAYS had #what’s annoying about WFA specifically is how quickly ppl flock to it #like the fact that so many ppl are getting characterization info from WFA #the fact that so many people will read WFA and jump into convos on comics unprompted #the fact that so many ppl look at the issues ppl have with WFA and think it’s just a canon vs fanon issue with going to the root of it #I focused on duke heavily but WFA brings up so many of my issues with fandom and current DC in general to the forefront #like making the whole Bruce Jason issue less complicated or forcing Jason into the role of the perfect victim by making it a personality-#-thing from the start/ignoring just how far he went #defanging tim unless it’s time for him to be the smartest and completely ignoring the issues he has and has cause within the family #the idea that Damian and Tim’s issues are completely one sided and making it a jealousy think instead of the complex issues Damian had with #him at the start that tim developed moving on #ignoring that Steph’s issues are largely rooted in her treatment from tim and bruce #ignoring that a lot of cass’s issues are exacerbated by Bruce and that though they reconciled there are still things she struggles with #and I highlighted these ppl specifically bc I want to point out that a lot of these choices specifically prop up rich white male characters #even dick who is canonically Romani is largely seen as white until it’s time to sexualize him whether it’s from fans or not #when you say that ppls issues with WFA is just mischaracterization ur ignoring the REASONS for said mischaracterizations which is the crux-#-of the issue to me. and saying ‘well why can’t you just take it for what it is’ is so weird bc what it is is a culmination of all the r #racism classism and misogyny that fans love to ignore. THATS why I dislike WFA #the only reason it can exist and be so adored is bc of the underlying biases a lot of y’all have and don’t wanna admit #and obligatory this isn’t speaking for everybody or whatever #the difference for me and other comics where characters are mischaracterized is how much y’all like WFA #and how many of y’all let it influence how you speak in convos about these characters (like Duke!)#this isn’t even mainly in response to the person I reblogged from it’s abt person 2 but I’m not typing all that again sorry

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